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Thursday, December 18, 2008

Roulette Township Snow Plow Operators Ask For Your Help

Recently we have had problems with snow removal in the area. There are more and more people that have been parking on the streets, shoveling/plowing snow into the streets, and a lot of (mostly kids) racing around on the streets while we are plowing.

When there is heavy snow, it would be greatly appreciated if parking on the streets could be avoided if possible. If not possible, please make sure that your vehicle is as far off the road as possible. This will not only prevent the possibility of unfortunate damage to vehicles, but will enable us to more effectively remove snow from the streets.

Regarding putting snow into the streets when plowing or shoveling… this causes potential traffic hazards that could be punishable under PA State Vehicle Code (§ 3709. I am not talking about the people that plow snow across the road and then clean the mess and leave a few crums, I am talking about the ones that intentionally move the snow back into the road and just leave it there to be run over, re-plowed or driven around.

Another potentially threatening situation is the kids that think that the streets are open to tearing up with their cars and recreational vehicles. They also get in our way while we are trying to keep the streets clean and safe for motorists.

Operating a snowplow is not like driving a car. It is not easy navigating around obstructions. There is a lot of plow out there on the front of the truck, and a lot to keep track of.

If everyone will co-operate, we can clean the streets of snow and ice without having any problems. Plow operators don't want to have to contact police, but they will do what is necessary to keep those who do not co-operate from harming themselves and others…


All in all, it is best to avoid any unnecessary travel during storms like the one that is heading this way…

36 comments :

Anonymous said...

Maybe it would help if we knew what township it was?????

Solomon's words for the wise said...

This was for Roulette Township, however, I am sure that the other townships all experience these problems and would appreciate your co-operation.

Anonymous said...

DUH!!!! The heading clearly states Roulette Township......

Anonymous said...

If Roulette Township could hire snowplow operators that were educated to snow removal, these problems wouldn't arise.

Anonymous said...

In other words, if you live in Roulette Township and it starts to snow...don't come out of your house???? or don't let your kids come out of your house???

Jonathan Huff said...

To the morons that, as always, don't have the gonads to post their names: The Township is always accepting applications if you think you can do a better job...

Sincerely... Jonathan Huff

Anonymous said...

They have no idea,do they John!?Keep up the good work!B. Jones(Retired Pendot Plow Operator)

Solomon's words for the wise said...

Thank you Jon and our Roulette Township road crew who are out there keeping the roads clear while we are sleeping soundly. Your competence and dedication are appreciated. You do a great job, as do our firemen and ambulance people. The Roulette community is indeed fortunate to have you. Thank you all for what you do.

Jonathan Huff said...

Brad & Jim, It's nice to know that not everyone is as sour as the few that posted earlier. We do our best to make this a better place to live for everyone. Even the ones that don't appreciate it. Thank you for posting the original letter that started this all. I didn't think that we were asking for miracles, just a little courtesy and help with what becomes a very difficult and daunting task at times...

Jonathan

Anonymous said...

It must really be terrible trying to plow the snow in a huge "metropolis" like Roulette!!!

Anonymous said...

If you've ever plowed snow, you would understand that no matter where you live, in the city or in the huge "metropolis" like Roulette, it is not an easy task and credit needs to given where it is deserved. Grow up!

Anonymous said...

I have plowed snow...it isn't that difficult. There are going to be obstacle no matter what people say or do anyway.

Anonymous said...

i live on lyman road and that interseaction is the worse one in the roulette area you think these guys that plow trout brook they would plow us out to but know they wait till they make anouther trip i get so mad some one is going to get hert or killed out there i bitch about it all the time and no one cares until it happens

Anonymous said...

Yea,you probably had a little plow on a little pickup doin little driveways!!Until you've operated a Real snow plow with a wing and loaded down with sand,most don't have a clue!! In a storm situation usually we would go at least 12 hour shifts,eat on the run and bust our #ss goin as fast as we safely could,saying to our selves "nobody's gettin hurt on my run today" if I can help it!!You do the best you can with the resources you're allotted.All the township is asking is to please have a little common sense and respect what they are trying to accomplish a tough job in harsh circumstances! Give em a break or better yet,like John said;put your application in!! B. Jones-(7 yrs. with Pen Dot)

Ugotta B Kiddin said...

All I know is that I struggled to get home friday afternoon...route 49 from the coudersport borough up to the Rigas golf course wasn't plowed at all. Then there was a span from there on into Gold that both lanes were plowed and from Gold into Ulysses they were unplowed, but lo and behold....as I came into Ulysses there was a Penndot truck plowing snow in the empty lot next to the car wash!! I guess that lot was more important than peoples safety on the roads.

Anonymous said...

The car wash???? Hmmm, very interesting!!!!

Anonymous said...

So, I went out and bought a new lawn mower with a plow, where do I apply to plow in Roulette?

Jonathan Huff said...

Reagrding when roads get plowed and in what order, here is how the priorities go in Roulette so that you are all aware of why we plow what we do and when they are plowed. Not that anyone is any less important than anyone else, but the fact remains that ALL intersections and roads are equally dangerous when they are covered with snow and ice.

When the snow is coming down faster than the 2 plows and drivers that we have can keep up with it, the main paved, through-roads (Main St., River St., Railroad Ave., Kim Hill Rd., Pomeroy/Fishing Creek Rd. Ext., and the West Branch of Fishing Creek) are the primary focus. They are kept open as best as possible and cindered in the main hazard areas (hills, curves, and intersections). If school is in session, the school bus routes are hit just before the busses are schedualed to pass through. When the snow has passed, or subsided long enough to allow, we then hit the rest of the roads as follows. Paved through roads, dirt through roads, and then the dead end roads based on the amount of travel that they receive. Basically, in a nutshell, if you live on a small dead end road with few houses, you are the last on the list. Not that you are any less important, but the traffic warrants priority, sorry. If you see a plow truck pass your road by, it may be because the road that you live on is on another drivers route, or possibly that there is a road with a higher traffic volume that is more pressing. Be assured that your road will be done, it just may not be when you want it. Unfortunately, Lyman / Short Roads are near the bottom of the list as far as priorities when it comes down to it. Not as a matter of preference, but a matter of logisitcs and safety for the majority of as many travelers as possible with the primary objectives being having safe roads for the busses, commuters and emergency response vehicles first and then everyone else after that. If a road is completely forgotten during a storm, it is not intentional, sometimes, after 14+ hours of non-stop plowing with no breaks, anyone can forget now and again. No matter how good you are or how big your lawn mower with a plow on it is. This is the last that I will have to say on this matter and for that matter the last time that I will check this posting as I am sick and tired of listening to people complain that don't even have the fortitude to sign their name to it.
If you really want your voice to be heard, and not just to whine anonymously, you should really consider attending the monthly meetings at the Township Office. They are held on the 2nd Monday of every month at 5PM. There you will have the oppotunity to speak your mind, be heard by someone that cares and may affect a change, and possibly get an educated answer to your concerns...

Sincerely,

Jonathan Huff

Anonymous said...

well when you guys talk about "priority" in the order that the roads get plowed, i would like to know exactly where the driveway of john sena falls in the priority list. apparently pretty near the top. i say this because as i was leaving my house on second st. early 1 morning this past week when it was snowing like crazy and the roads in roulette were terrible as usual, i drive by mr. sena's house and see him plowing his driveway with a township plow truck. so maybe you guys should reconsider the "priority" list and put lyman/short rd. a little above john sena's driveway.

Anonymous said...

To all the winers who have no idea about plowing snow, I think the Township and Penn Dot operators are doing a great job, jump in their trucks and see all the equipment that is involved in the the job , then you winers add more by parking were you shouldn't and pushing snow back out in the streets. they can't take the snow with them. DUH !!! So help them a little , get out of the way.!!!

Anonymous said...

Just a couple of thoughts with Jon's 1st.comments. As a Township Rep. your choice of words are extremely poor. 2nd. who might come up with educated answer?????

One thing you don't have to worry about is use of a wing plow!!!!!

Totally agree you can't keep up when it's snowing and agree with prioritizing. Good job on safety for the kids!

Just wish the streets in the village (side streets) would have the snow at least off the black top one extra pass to push them back is all it takes (at the end of a storm) intersections need to be cleaned better.

Anyway's thanks for the job you do. Just remember a job well done will get you the praise you want. Pride in your job and what you say is important.

Ugotta B Kiddin said...

Yeah...all of that equipment certainly helped to plow out the car wash parking lot in Ulysses as a line of cars went slipping by on an unplowed state highway.

Anonymous said...

Was it car wash property?

Ugotta B Kiddin said...

It was the dirt parking lot next to the car wash.

Anonymous said...

"It was the dirt parking lot next to the car wash."

Who owns this sacred property?

Anonymous said...

The Car wash on 49 in Ulysses has absolutely nothing to do with the roads in Roulette!B. Jones

JMHO said...

"It was the dirt parking lot next to the car wash."

"Who owns this sacred property?"

The wash is owned by a Penn DOT employee. I am not aware of who owns the dirt lot next to the wash, but if the State Truck was used to plow private property, everyone has a right to complain. I just can't believe the car wash owner would use the state truck to plow his property, he's not that stupid.

JMHO

Anonymous said...

Public Tax dollars = Public Information. The PUBLIC has a right to know!!!!

rick said...

to the ROULETTE TOWNSHIP today is 12-23-08 ihave noticed alot off problmes lately with plowing the roads and claening up the streats look at the mess they made on the bottom of 4th street they messed up those pine trees that was not called for i think are supervisers should drive a round and see the messes they have created but i dont think they care nether so i think the towns peaple should say more about whats going on i live on lyman road and they never keep it clean they can even widen the streets in town more but they dont why do they plow reed run up to keeting township no one live on that road well i hope the morons read this thank you rick r

Mr Negative said...

....and people wonder why they call Potter County people hicks.

Holy Crap! Rick...you need to use some punctuation....and spell check...or better yet...just put the mouse down and back away slowly....

Anonymous said...

Rick R, You seriously need to work on the spelling and grammer!(lol)Maybe you need adult supervision!Like John said earlier,If it's so easy , fill out an application and give it a try!Actually,we used to beg the plow drivers to leave us a little snow on the edges for snowmobiling!You all need to lighten up on the plow operators and get a 4-wheel drive or move to Florida!Lyman Rd. is a dead end road with 3 people livin there!But things are always "whiter" on the other side of the fence!Lol. Brad

Anonymous said...

sorry brad you havnt been around for a while i dont care about my spelling and what you say its what happens here in roulette to day a guy poled out off lyman road on to route 6 and got hit buy a tractor trailer you have know idea whats going on around here you think you do but you dont i do sorry maybe you need adult supervision merry christmas

Anonymous said...

Merry X-mas to you too my friend!! Brad

Anonymous said...

I was driving by Lyman Road, on Route 6, this morning and noticed that the plow truck was sitting behind a white pickup truck, parked in the road, in front of Rick's little slice of heaven (AKA Rick's Junk Yard). He bitches that the plow drivers don't plow wide enough, but he won't even give them enough room to plow what they can. Way to go bonehead. Maybe you should clean your crappy yard up and quit worrying about what is out of your realm of control (like spelling). Jeesh, I'll tell you, it is amazing that something, which started as a simple request for some common courtesy and common sense, has led to all of this. I guess common isn't so common "round these here parts". It goes without saying, that all of this makes this small community look like a bunch of backwoods school children. Well it a constitutional right for anyone to speak their minds, even if it is petty and tripe. So keep up the good work "YALL", before you know it Jerry Springer will be hosting a show right here. For the solemn few that have posted some intelligent and constructive criticism, I hope that John wasn't serious about not checking this thread anymore as it sounds like he would have found those comments useful for making positive changes. Maybe Jim could e-mail them to him if he has his address.

END RANT

Anonymous said...

To the rick guy who doesn't seem to know what the h*ll is going on in the plowing of Roulette and obviously could not read previous post clearly as it explained how and why the reason the roads are plowed the way they are. They do their damn job to the best of their abilty and work round the clock. When there are only two people to plow everything you just need to suck it up and deal with what you got. We live in rural Pennsylvania and guess what it is not a city where they have all the money in the world to spend on one resource. To the person that got hit sorry about that happening because that is never a good thing but we all have to take extra precautions in the bad weather. If there was a big rig coming they should not have pulled out until after it went past. I have lived in Potter County my whole life and the roads have never been perfect. So as I said be thankful for what you do get and for you people that do not know how much our township does to keep our streets clean go to the meeting talk with the borogh do what you need to do in order to be informed. If you can't make yourself properly informed than you do not have the right to bitch. It is the same as voting you don't vote you don't have a voice so shut up step back and let those who do their job handle things. Don't really care who post to this or grips about what I said but it needed to be out there. You can agree or disagree to some or all. Like it has been said on here it is mainly opinions that are posted on the comments blog and there are some tid bits of fact thrown in. But seriously if you are going to post learn to spell.

Rose

Anonymous said...

Good morning to all and Merry Christmas...
I have two things to comment on at this time. The first being, I am a Firefighter in the area and did not here a dispatch for any accident in Roulette Township on 12/24, let alone one for car versus Tractor Trailer at the Short Road intersection. So if there was a car hit there yesterday, as Ricky proclaimed, it must have been very minor. Maybe Ricky's imagination is even worse than his spelling.
Next, I was in the neighborhood yesterday and could not resist taking the time to divert my travels down 4th Street to check out the "damaged trees". As much as I hate to say it, I have to agree with him... Well, kind of... The damaged trees, are actually a damaged tree... And by the looks of it, the lower limbs that were damaged actually hung out into, or near the roadway. It is also on a corner intersection and appears to be causing visibility issues for those that use the private road at that intersection. If I were one of these people, I would have insisted long ago that that tree, and the others near it, be trimmed back or removed. After all, we wouldn't want anyone to get hit by a truck pulling out of that intersection too... So, was the damage unnecessary, yes. But, only because the tree should have been removed long ago. Then the damage never would have occurred...
Remember Ricky... when you point a finger at someone, three are pointing back at you...
He may not get this, so someone please splain it to him...