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Wednesday, January 7, 2009

Roulette Firemen Dispatched For A Search

BREAKING NEWS:10:15pm-1-7-09
Roulette Fire Department has been dispatched to assist Pennsylvania State Police with a search. An ambulance, a rescue unit, and volunteers are on scene.

At 11:55pm, searchers are still on the scene on the Atkins Road 1/10 mile from the East Branch of Fishing Creek Road in Roulette Township, where several persons were reported to have heard a male voice calling "help me" earlier this evening.

Firemen have searched many areas where the voice may have been heard from, but strong winds out of the west have made it difficult to determine the direction that the voice came from. An attempt to get assistance from a state police helicopter was unsuccessful.

At 12:05am, the wind is out of the west at 17 mph, and the temperature is 26 degrees, making for very low wind chill factor for searchers and who ever might be in need of help.

Roulette Fire Department units abandoned the search at 12:46am.

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16 comments :

Anonymous said...

Wind chill estimate 10 to 12 degrees.

Anonymous said...

Due to weather conditions, time is of the essence here. Please request assistance from trained SAR personnel in managing this search. SAR teams are available in the area as well as search managers from DCNR.

Anonymous said...

Hopefully the call was not a female voice but instead a wailing bobcat.

Anonymous said...

Why abandon a search? You should never abandon a search

Anonymous said...

I don't believe anyone was bad mouthing the fire company or others involved. It's purely a matter of logistics. Taking firefighters away from their station for extended periods of time for searches is detremental to the fire protection district they serve. The job of a qualified search manager and/or SAR group is to determine probabilities and act on them, not necessarily to be called when there are no other options. This is what they are trained to do. All emergency services (fire, ambulance, SAR, police, etc.) have specific specialities. Using them for their specific purpose is not a slam on any other service, their personnel or purpose. Let's work together. PS I'm in the 'business' too.

Anonymous said...

David,
Hey man you know as well as I do you don't abandon a search because it is cold outside and just go ahead and think everything will be the same when you resume in the morning or whenever. I mean, would you leave a structure fire becaude its "under control..?" Real or not, you don't give up. That is a firman's motto and you know that...A qualified, certified search and rescue team is needed simply because this type of call warrants it. There is only so much training to be had through volunteer firefighting, and the training you get you make the most of, nobody questions that. But just because you are a volunteer firefighter doesn't mean that every time there is an emergency of any sorts that you can handle it all on your own. These search and rescue units are exactly what they are called....search and rescue units. David I know you have a passion for this, but don't get defensive everytime something is going on in town. Look at the broader picture. If someone is reportedly lost in the woods down near Harrisburg, are you going to want STRICTLY a couple of engines and an ambulance, like Roulette has? Or certified personnel? What does the situation call for on Atkins Rd.?

Anonymous said...

"The reason why the search was called off was obvious, why have all your firefighters out in the woods until all hours of the night in temps that are around 10 to 12 degrees searching for someone that might not even be there."

Wow, now if I ever get lost in Roulette, I can look forward to that type of response. You of course believe someone might not be lost, and that this is a hoax simply because they haven't found them yet..but if there is a lost person out there, and I certainly hope not, do we tell them that Station 46 called it off so that they could go home and get a good night sleep and get warm and eat while they were lost in the woods? I always thought that you sacrificed yourself and those types of things when duty called David? Isn't that what you did when you joined? Cause I sure did..
I don't believe that the good folk of Station 46 would really do that, but that is essentially what you said in that response of yours. Station 46, nor does any type of volunteer organization, need that image right now. I'd stick to what is happening in Harrisburg right now, and leave the work to the folks actually doing it.

Anonymous said...

I didnt call off the search I was just stating that I didnt know what the situation was but the proper authourities were notified and made the decision. If I was home I would stay and finish the search but the incident commander be it the chief, ema director whoever makes the ultimate decision. I wasnt trying to start anything nor saying that we dont care because anybody that knows me knows that I would do anything possibly to get it done. Yeah I might be in Harrisburg and might not be up there but I know they didnt call off the search and just give up. I merely stated from the first previous posts that these firefighters were out getting the job done.

Anonymous said...

Nobody questions that David, but in the future I disagree, as do chief's I happen to work with, with the decision to call off a search for any reason other than you found the subject or canvassed the area. The ultimate decision lied with Chief 46, this was his incident command. I'm not saying he gave up after calling the search off. He just should not have called it off. Doesn't make sense because nobody knew for sure if someone was lost or in danger. You just don't leave in times like that, I'm sorry.

Ugotta B Kiddin said...

I think is was one of those mysterious Potter County Mountain Lions making the noise......they don't leave any tell tale signs behind that they were there.

Anonymous said...

My understanding is that the search was called off because there was no evidence of anyone being in the woods. I think that in that situation firefighters should return to their stations and get some sleep, or something to eat so they are ready for the next call. And this arguing about it I feel is childish. There are more constructive things to argue about than that because everyone would have handled this situation differently.

Anonymous said...

If you are all so concerned now why didnt you get out of bed, leave your families, and help join in the search. No one would be turned away. Think about that next time instead of sitting in front of your computers blogging about something you know nothing about. If you are so concerned DO SOMETHING TO HELP NEXT TIME and shut up when you dont know what the hell your talking about. And just an addition to all you "blue lights" out their. Next time you go speeding "To the rescue" think about the person you just about run off the road and the two kids they have in their car and SLOW YOUR ASSES DOWN. You do nothing for the image of the people that are there to help. The only thing you do is put yourselves and others at risk. Lets face it none of you NASCAR racers or you sure as hell wouldnt be in Potter County. Get over yourselves. Your not gods. Your there to protect and serve. Not to run people of the roads and scare children. And your damn right next time it happens to me I WILL see your asses in court and I dont care who you are.

Anonymous said...

Go ahead and take us so called "Blue Lights" to court. you will lose that case. do you know why? because there for as long as i can remember never an accident where some one was injured due to a firefighter/Emt/Chief/Police officer/Fire Police etc... running some one off the road in the process of saving a life. yes we do speed a little more than we should. but how many lives get saved? how many houses saved? how many domestic desputes stopped? Shootings? traffic jams solved due to another incident. if it wasnt for us leaving our familys, jobs, meetings, getting up at 3am, all the boroughs plus townships would me really low on population, houses would be missing, traffic would be backed up for several hours, days, weeks. you see if we weren't here to serve and protect. then this county would be a train wreck. and the life of this whole operation lies upon the hands of those who actually leave what they are doing to serve their community.

Anonymous said...

Well the next time someone runs me off the road. See you in court. Because I HAVE BEEN RUN OFF THE ROAD. It's not right and I will call PSP AND your commanding officer. Slow it down or pay the concequences.

Anonymous said...

Last anonymous poster. how many people get hurt in potter county for getting run of the road by emergency personall. None. now with that said. i sure think that Judge Leete would throw that case out if he has proof that the person that ran you off the road was on the scene of a call. you guys overexagerate a little too much. you know you probably had to only pull over a few feet on the birm of the road. it aint like you got ran 20 feet of the road and smashed into a tree or house.

You IDIOT!!!! its never going to happen. so just go back to your little princess dream and go on with playing with your barbies and unicorns!

NUH SAID!!!

Anonymous said...

I'm just going to say that I dont think any body "RAN" you off the road! But IF they did it was not right and IF it happens another time maybe you should have a talk with this person. But I think taking it to court is a little much because these people are the ones who are our town "heros"! And I'm sure if it was YOUR house on fire, YOU in an fender bender,or YOU in need of EMS treatment YOU would want them there as fast as possible!