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Tuesday, January 20, 2009

Swimming Pool Closing Would Hurt Coudersport

Coudersport Swimming Pool May Have To Close

Council Will Decide If Swimming Pool Will Open

Will the Coudersport Borough Swimming Pool be in operation in 2009 or will it set empty for the entire season. The swimming pool is an expensive facility to operate and with the rising costs and job conditions throughout the entire area it has become a reality that closing the pool may be the only alternative.

During the regular monthly meeting of Borough Council held on December 18, 2008 the chairman of the recreation committee asked the council to seriously think about the pool operation and be prepared to voice their opinion in regards to closing the pool with a likely hood that a vote will be taken at the January 21, 2009 meeting of council to determine whether to operate it in 2009.

If you are serious about having a swimming pool in 2009 you need to step up to bat and let the council members know your feelings. The Borough has to consider seriously of closing the pool entirely. The Borough would like to receive as much public input as possible before any final decision is made.

You can write to the Coudersport Borough, 201 S. West Street, Coudersport, Pa. 16915, email at coudyboro@zitomedia.net or call 814-274-9776 or come to the regular monthly meeting that will be held on Wednesday January 21, 2009 at the Borough Maintenance Facility located at 43 Damascus Road.

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Swimming Pool Closing Would Hurt Coudersport's Appeal As A Community!!

By James Jones

When the Coudersport Borough Council sits down tomorrow to wrassle with the question of whether to keep the Borough's swimming pool open for another year, a lot of thought should be given to the ramifications of closing the pool.

The first, of course, being the safety of the Boro's youngsters. I remember spending a large amount of my time as a youth at the community swimming pool in Bolivar. It was a favorite place to be in the summertime. It provided a safe, supervised environment, and we learned to swim.

Most of my children learned to swim at the Port Allegany Community Pool. For this I am eternally grateful. Even though it was a chore sometimes to take time to bring them to the pool, they enjoyed it immensely and most importantly learned to swim.

I must admit that I am not a resident of Coudersport Boro so I really don't have a voice about the question, but if the pool is allowed to close, the Coudersport area will be that much less attractive to families who might want to settle here. It would not set well with me if I were thinking of moving here, to read that the Boro could not afford to keep the swimming pool open.

Kids will be kids, and if there is no pool in the summertime, you'll find them in the channel, farm ponds, and swimming holes. Those unsupervised activities are unsafe and may result in injuries and deaths. There is nothing more precious than a child in my eyes, and we need to do all we can to protect them and keep them safe.

The Coudersport Community Pool has a long history of entertaining our youngsters and providing employment for our older youth. I know times are especially tough now, but I urge you to look at all the alternatives to closing.

Could a pool authority be formed to supevise the pools operation and maintainence? Possibly there would be funding sources available through the state. Maybe a fund raising effort could be made to pay for the costs of upkeep. Maybe there is someone who has a lot of money who would like to be remembered as the one who donated to keep the pool open?

At any rate, I urge you to consider the alternatives to just closing the pool. I know that the council is attempting to be fiscally responsible in these trying economic times, and I laud them for that, but any effort to keep the pool open would be appreciated.

The council wants to know what you think? Comment here or send them an email at the adddress listed above, or call your favorite councilmen. I know there is a lot going on right now and with a foot of snow on the ground, it's hard to think about the pool, but now is the time to act. Let council know what you feel. They may vote on Wednesday to close the pool.

31 comments :

Anonymous said...

You made a very good point about where the children will be should the pool close. It was just two or three years ago that a child was lost by drowning in a pond. Granted it was winter time, but still...

Anonymous said...

The boro can waste thousands and thousands of dollars on other things, name one thing that is for the youth in this town other than this pool??? I am urging all parents, grandparents, friends and relatives of our Coudersport youth, to fight to keep this pool open!

Anonymous said...

When kids want to go swimming in the summer they can't where will they go. The channel water holes or to another town where they have to pay more to get in to go swimming.

Anonymous said...

Does anybody know what kind of dollar figure it would require to keep the pool open?

Anonymous said...

Put a toll both on Route 6.

Anonymous said...

I was told by a Council member that it cost $65,000 to keep the pool operational this past summer and only $16,500 in revenue was realized. That leaves a deficit of $48,500. We need to do something to make up this disparity. Bring all your ideas and comments to the meeting tomorrow evening!

Anonymous said...

I believe the dollar figure is about $40,000.00.

Anonymous said...

QUOTE: "You made a very good point about where the children will be should the pool close. It was just two or three years ago that a child was lost by drowning in a pond. Granted it was winter time, but still..."

RESPONSE... THE ACCIDENT THAT TOOK PLACE A LITTLE AROUND A YEAR AGO AT THE POND BY THE SCHOOL WAS TRAGIC.. HOWEVER IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TOWN POOL ...

Anonymous said...

blast a hole in the "free" Gunzburger Annex's gym floor and build an indoor pool. swimming all year around.

Anonymous said...

I could be wrong,but don't we pay a recreation tax?I know alot of great things happen at Carp Park and am sure some money is spent there.Is this the whole of the tax?Where else is this money being spent?Not making accusations,just wondering what the amount taken in is and where it goes.Sure would like to see the pool stay open.

Anonymous said...

How about special swim events like parties, cookouts or fund raisers? Have competitions like best belly flop by a teacher, or people could cast votes for a dollar for who they want to see do a belly flop and whoever gets the most has to do it. Money can be raised in small incriments throughout the year, it just takes thinking outside the box. Having a dj at an event would bring more people. Dont give up people!

Anonymous said...

The conspiracy theorist in me wonders if this is a ploy to get an indoor pool at the High School or Elementary School (on the State's tab).

Beyond that, I have a family of three little girls and they LOVE to go to the pool. We bought a season pass, because they enjoyed it so much. The pool is more than jsut the pool... it's a place to socialize in a safe place.

I'm thinking there are plenty of therapists that bring there clients to the pool to swim and socialize.

I'm trying to stay positive about the whole thing, but feel what positive can come from closing it??? saving some $$?

What about the negatives? Well more kids on the streets.... More families (like mine) saying "Coudersport... where saving a buck is more important than providing services to it's residents."

I like the idea the last poster had of doing the various fundraising ideas... How about we have Billy Martin bring the Cole All Star Circus back again in 3 or 4 months and get all the proceeds to go to the Swimming Pool fund? Salty popcorn and highly iced cups of soda for $2 each.... that'll raise some dough!! :)

Anonymous said...

Here's something a little off track, but what about the possibility of building a completely new pool at CARP Park? Are the tennis courts being used enough to keep them there, or could a new pool be installed in that space? There would be enough parking, and there might be a greater chance for more children to have access to it. This community has raised money together for many different good things through the years, it would be really something to see it raising money for something positive for the children.

Anonymous said...

Sure take another thing away for the kids to do in this area.... You wonder why kids get into trouble or get hurt doing something they souldn't do (like swim in the channel) I remember growing up we always had something to do, swimming, skating, movies etc...

Anonymous said...

I don't think the problem is going to be solved by a few fundraisers. Apparently this is an anual fiscal issue if the pool takes that much of a loss that it is a detriment. I remember the town spending a whole boatload of money at one time to have the pool drained, relined and repaired.......I don't remember when.This is part of the public recreation that the townspeople pay taxes for....it's noy supposed to be a profitable business. If it loses that much money, raise the admission prices and concession prices. Better yet....get some of the bailout money that is being spent on companies that are going to waste it.

Anonymous said...

The people of Coudersport need to stick together to work this out. All of my children learned to swim correctly and safely at that pool. Maybe an indoor pool would be something to consider because of our weather and the damage that must do to an outside pool even though the cost may be higher it would also be used year round...year round passes versus season passes etc. of course employees would have to be paid year round also but think of what it means to the community now and the future children and residents of this area...What about grants...and the possible idea of the hospital going in with something like this...good luck

Anonymous said...

I say close the pool and allow the YMCA to open a facility in the area. Little to no tax paper funds needed and we would get a better facility and activities for our kids.

Anonymous said...

If the taxpayers monies are good enough to repave the track, put in new bleachers and re-field the football field at CARP (all except the bleachers were not necessary) then I think some tax money should be found to KEEP the pool open. My family chooses not to use it but there are alot of families that do. Remember the raise the county workers just got? Maybe that money should be re-routed to help fund the pool. I don't think it's the hospital's responsibility to help with the pool. They are struggling enough and have given us a place to work out (at a loss for them) for over 12 years now.

Anonymous said...

If Coudy wants it bad enough they will figure out a way. As far as fund raisers.....works this year if you can find people willing to put the time and effort into it. From the looks of the festivals Coudersport tries to have it will be a tough job. Just not the place to visit.

Anonymous said...

cc: The Concerned Coudersport Boro
I was born in Coudersport and transferred to Port Allegany in 1978. I love Port Allegany but consider Coudersport my native home. Therefore, I am concerned for the people of Coudersport, as I was back then, when I served others through Coudersport Rotary, Retail Merchants Association, Chamber of Commerce, Alliance Church, American Legion, 4H and Boy Scouts.
I like to look on the positive side of things.
My wife and I both learned to swim at the Coudersport Pool in the 1940’s. Many wise, forward thinking residents helped to make many positive innovations through the years such as a bathhouse, filtration plant and a whole new pool.
I believe time should be taken to look into what other communities are doing to keep their community pool open. May I suggest examining the Port Allegany Recreation Authority as to what they do to keep their pool, tennis and basketball courts, ball fields and picnic areas in existence? The Port Allegany Rotary Club has been extremely helpful in building the original pool, maintaining and even rebuilding the pool through these many years. They do this through fund raising and the generous support of individuals in and around the community. It continues to help fund even today in 2009.
It seems like your area service clubs, churches, community organizations, youth groups, children and others would want to rise up and help in this great endeavor!

Friend Jim (James Plotts)

Anonymous said...

The Boro can afford new cars and trucks but they can't afford to keep the pool open this is BS.

Anonymous said...

I doubt that the boro officials want to close the pool for all of the reasons stated above. Usually when government makes this type of decison it is the recreation budget that goes first, in order to maintain the basic services.

Don't forget Lyman Lake is open now for swimming, there are what 6 state parks, plus CARP and Mitchell Park in town.

Everybody wants but nobody wants to pay.

Anonymous said...

"I say close the pool and allow the YMCA to open a facility in the area. Little to no tax paper funds needed and we would get a better facility and activities for our kids."

Sounds good to me, if we do this it will open about 10 new jobs, and it will be a year around event.

Anonymous said...

People want a place IN TOWN to go swimming, and also you can't do that at either CARP or Mitchell parks.

Anonymous said...

As stated before, maybe the possibility of a new one at CARP is an idea. Easier to get to by many children, as parking may no longer be an issue, and it would be easier to make it handicap accessible there, as well. Let's not dwell on the why we can't, or how it came to be.... let's work on the why and how we can make it work where it is or make it work someplace else in town!
Another option could be to have some kids come to these meetings, or send in ideas on what they would like to see become a reality here. Include the kids....

Anonymous said...

A YMCA would never open a facility here. There would not be enough revenue to support the staff which has to be paid. We need to work on keeping the pool we have, not building another one. Any type of pool (indoor or outdoor) is a "white elephant" and takes more money to operate, staff and maintain that it will ever bring in so there needs to be some funds coming from somewhere else that is specifically set aside for pool costs. The Coudersport borough council and commissioners need to know how strongly everyone feels about this. Maybe the incoming windmills will provide "free" electricity to it!

Anonymous said...

We cant have a swimming pool but we can get a rusty old Rail car. Just what the town needs thanks Mr.Karija

Steve

Anonymous said...

The CARP field would be a good spot but have you ever seen the tennis court after a flood the pool would be filled with the river water.

Steve

Anonymous said...

The town can't afford to support a facility that is already in place and people want to spend a half million dollars to put in a new facility in a different location? What a bunch of fools....

I agree with thother poster above....how can other communities afford to maintain a town pool and Coudersport can't? I'll tell you why!!! Mismanagement of funds!!! Shouldn't this shortfall be part of the town budget?

Anonymous said...

I know many students wrote letters and petitions for the boro for the meeting tonight.

Anonymous said...

People are not fools for posting their thoughts on here. Everyone has a right to an opinion. It's okay to come up with other ideas on how to have a pool for our children.
The people who feel they have to be nasty and go off topic just ensure that those who want to write in won't.