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Monday, February 2, 2009

Zero Alcohol Tolerance For Snowmobile Operators

USFS Conducts DUI Checkpoint

From the US Forest Service:

The Allegheny National Forest has been the site of two fatal snowmobile accidents already this winter season. In an effort to combat this, United States Forest Service Law Enforcement reports conducting a DUI checkpoint for snowmobiles on Saturday evening, January 31st, 2009, at the intersection of Lamonaville Road (Forest Road 130) and Loleta Road (Forest Road 131), Forest County, Jenks Township. The inter-agency checkpoint consisted of officers from the Forest Service as well as the Pennsylvania Game Commission and the Forest County Sheriff’s Department.

During the four hour evening period, officers report contacting 49 snowmobiles and making 17 secondary stops for suspicion of alcohol use. Five snowmobile operators were charged with operating a snowmobile while under the influence of alcohol, two were charged for not having valid insurance, and two were charged for attempting to elude law enforcement. One individual was also booked into Clarion County Jail for violating conditions of probation.

The Forest Service would like to remind all snowmobile operators that Pennsylvania and Federal law states that it is illegal to operate a snowmobile while under the influence of ANY amount of alcohol or “zero tolerance”. Federal penalties for operating a snowmobile while under the influence of alcohol (or controlled substances) start out at $375 and can go up to as much as $5,000 and/or six months imprisonment. Additional penalties can include impound fees for your snowmobile, community service, alcohol counseling, and/or driver’s license suspension. Ride safely and only on designated trails.

24 comments :

Anonymous said...

It is about time! They should do this every weekend at different places around the county!

Anonymous said...

I'm curious as to how the Forest Service can set alcohol limits that are more stringent than what exist for our Public Highways...After all, We, the people of the Commonwealth of PA, own the State Forest Land just as we own the State Highways - DCNR and the like are simply caretakers of our property, NOT owners.

Anonymous said...

What a bunch of B.S.

Anonymous said...

Get your facts straight. The U.S. Forest Service is NOT the Pa. Bureau of Forestry and these checkpoints were not on State Forest Land. The U.S. Forest Service is a federal agency which governs by federal regulations. By the way, the way some of you take care of "your" land you need a caretaker like the Bureau of Forestry and the U.S. Forest Service.

Anonymous said...

Ryan said...
What a bunch of B.S.

Remember the game of "chicken"? We'll give a guy a 6-pack and bottle...have him drink all of it and we'll let the two of you play chicken. If you live, we'll reconsider.

Sound fair?

Anonymous said...

What does it matter who does the checks? A regular citizen can do the check and turn your butt in! It is still illegal to drink and drive a snowmobile. Maybe you need to sober up and take a look at your life or the life of someone you might be killing while your drinking! There are other snowmobilers to think about!

Anonymous said...

I don't want to paint all snowmobilers with the same wide brush, (there's a lot of careful drivers out there) but all you have to do is go in any number of bar/restaurants and you'll see any number of totally hammered snowmobilers. It's a wonder there aren't more accidents. The whole culture of dice runs etc is to ride from one bar to the next.

Anonymous said...

Why do checkpoints then? It shouldn't be too hard to enforce a zero tolerance rule. All you have to do is drive around the county and see all of those snowmobiles parked outside almost every bar. If you can't have any amount of alcohol then every one of these riders are breaking the law.
Just wait outside for them to come out.

Anonymous said...

That's fine but for you that go out to eat don't even think about having a drink with your meal if we can't go out for a day of riding and stop for a drink then you can't go out to eat and have a drink

Anonymous said...

Ryan.....there's a thing called "punctuations". Try using it. I don't understand a thing you rattled on in the note above.

Anonymous said...

Back in the day, bar's and store owners made a good chunk of money when hunters and Fisherman came to town but the increase of DUI's have put a stop to that! This will push snowmobilers and there money away from this area as well. I'm not saying drinking and driving is ok at all but it seems like an easy way for the state to get there hands in the cookie jar!

Anonymous said...

"there's a thing called "punctuations". Try using it. I don't understand a thing you rattled on in the note above."...
Punctuation has nothing to do with what Ryan had to say. So he is no english major, big deal. The words are there and I got what he was saying and I find it very hard to believe you didn't!

Anonymous said...

Plain & simple .. don't drink & drive... ANYTHING !! YOU'RE ALL STUPID FOR DOING IT!! WAIT UNTIL YOU GET THAT PHONE CALL THAT YOU'VE LOST SOMEONE TO DRUNK DRIVIN' .. THEN LET'S SEE YOU BOO HOO'IN ...

HOW'Z THAT FOR PUNCTUATION ??

Anonymous said...

It isn't just in the forests we have problems with snowmobilers. I followed two of them down a state highway last weekend going faster than I was in my car. I called the PSP.

Anonymous said...

Again, another moronic subject to argue about. Cool, I'll play! This is simply another way for the state to make money and the yuppie safety factor is a bi-product of that fact. (That basically sums up the entire DUI system.) Of course, now I'll get the old cliche whiners..."Wait until a drunk snowmobiler runs over your kitty cat and then we'll see who is boohooing!!" Prevention and rehabilitation is key to solving the problem, right? Of course, those magical things only work if you pay the state 5K for your misdeeds. I think only after you've killed yourself while drinking and driving should you be locked up and charged 5K. I mean, we live in a free country where individuals have the right to choose whether or not to endanger themselves, right? (Helmet law) I also think that drunk drivers should be awarded a free case of beer each time they make it home from the bar (supporting local business in tough times) and not kill any small children. (Kind of like AllState's accident forgiveness plan...Are you in good hands?) Anyway, I think that thought derived from some old saying I once heard, "Innocent until proven guilty." Oh, I forgot, it's illegal to drive drunk, which is a number(.08), which was created by the State (with some help from MADD), and with your (do-gooders) safety in mind.

Anonymous said...

If alot of these snowmobilers would stud their sleds then alot of these accidents would not happen.. You can not run 6 inch carbides with no studs as it causes your ass end to come around and you lose control...
Alcohol ia not a factor in most of these cases. Look how many young teenagers have been killed on a sled. You can not say it was because of alcohol..
Our economy is already messed up. We do not need to take the bars and restuarants out of business in the area too.. What would Cross Forks have left if the bars closed down???
In most cases the ones killed on a sled have killed themselves, not others.
This is a free country let them make their own choices. Once they start to hurt others then thats when they need to take charge.
SNOWMOBILERS HELP THE ECONOMY .

Anonymous said...

Wow! To most of the recent posters. I wanted to try to get-along with snowmobilers because I thought that many are good people off the sleds. Thanks to the comments here I will go back to giving'em the middle digit again.

Anonymous said...

To DrunkAtNoon:
YOU ARE AN IDIOT! WERE YOU DRUNK WHEN YOU WROTE THIS COMMENT?!

Anonymous said...

First of all if you can drink to the limit of .08 in a car, shouldn't the same rules apply to a sled. Wait now that I think of it you dont need a license to drive a sled so why are all you do gooders sticking your nose in to this. So the state can make more money arresting people. The trails around here for the most part are in the middle of nowhere if a guy wants to get drunk out in the woods on a sled its his business. The trouble with todays society is everyones up in everyones business. We need more FREEDOM not laws and restrictions. I could go on and on but I'm not a good typer

Anonymous said...

I have to agree with Bobby on this one. Drunk at Noon--unless you're just trying to upset people because you think it's fun, you're not helping your cause at all.

Anonymous said...

To Bobby:

I had a friend that had wrecked her snowmobile and then run over by 2 different sleds that the drivers were drinking! She is alive and doing well thank God, but it could of been worse. Perhaps if they were not drinking they might of seen her and stopped. Any comment?

Anonymous said...

To you whose friend wrecked her sled: I'm sure that alchol wasn't the only factor in your friends wreck. Speed, following too close. Obviously you weren't there. Its just every one is looking to point the finger at something so lets make more laws. Twenty years ago thats what riding was you got together with friends and you bar hopped. Everyone knows the risk you take when you ride not just impaired riding sober even. Once again the keyboard has gotten the better of me

Anonymous said...

Potter County - "Come on vacation...stay for probation"

Anonymous said...

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! BORING!! GET A LIFE PEOPLE.