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Tuesday, November 10, 2009

Drilling In The Marcellus Shale

20 comments :

Anonymous said...

"Gas Drilling: Is It Worth It?"

I suppose if I was on the winning end my answer would be yes. But since I'm on the losing end and will be stuck paying to clean up the mess and fixing the roads, the answer is no.

Oz said...

You will not be paying for the clean up or fixing the roads...the company doing the drilling has had to "bond" the roads. The state will use that money to fix the roads if they do not put the roads back to "the same as or better" conditions.

Anonymous said...

WHERE is all THIS gas being drilled GOING to?

Anonymous said...

This all reminds me of the strip mines of years past. they came they stripped, and they left it barren.

Anonymous said...

Yes 3:37, then OUR TAX DOLLARS clean it up at no cost to the Corporations. We lose again and pay them monthly, and Gov't. funding in numerous grants, again we pay that too. They too will be gone.

John said...

Most of the natural gas now comes from the gulf coast! Once the wells are drilled and online the gas for the first time in history will be flowing from the northeast, The pool of gas that has been found in PA is larger that what was found
in Texas. Like it or not this process is not going to stop. The money that is now being invested in this process is going reap big returns for the state of PA and its residents. Unfortunately there also comes problems with this amount of revenue that will be generated. Have a positive outlook about this as a whole because as you must know rural PA is on it's knees economically.

John Pesock

Anonymous said...

John what did I tell you about smoking that stuff you found in the woods. I knew it would get to you eventually. And you have had your knees replaced so it probably doesn't hurt you as bad as the rest of us.

Anonymous said...

Good post John Pesock!

Anonymous said...

Wasn't there concern about the windmills because of noise - and the lights would destroy our night skies? Devalue our homes? What happened? Lights, noise, lower property values, and, with th possibility of spillage,a destroyed water table and environment. Oh yeah, the almighty "clean" natural gas is a "good" thing.

Anonymous said...

The noise limit from the wind turbines is below the noise created by the rigs & generators.

Interesting that it has disappeared from the radar.

It has created a conundrum for the Commisioners.

It's oblivious they are trying to frame the discussion to a muted middle ground.

The push for a dialogue to concensus is on.

Right off the bat of any discussion, they and others immediately attempt to discredit what they call radical internet crazies, ie the sky is falling people.

Clearly they see dollar signs, which point them to their reelection.

Neither of them will break out from the pack and even approach the issue of zoning or anything else which will kill what they see as the goose that lays the golden egg for Potter Couty.

Moderation is the theme of the day.

We could see 4000 wells in the county and with the industry touted 98% safety rating that leaves about 80 well accidents or incedents.

There will be accidents.

Where would you like the 80 potentially toxic incidents to occur in Potter County?



Their goal is to create doubt in what they label as the zealots for clean water.

I say lets hear from the fringes of both sides, without restraint.

One contractor even defended their role in an operation that was temporary shut down surrounding a high value trout stream.

Yes, it can't be stopped, I think we all realize that.

But let's trust but verify and fully hear the extremes of all sides.

The playbook has been given to both sides, let the games begin.

Anonymous said...

Below you will find some organizations that are working on stopping fracking. If you want information about the negative effects check out their websites.

Delaware Riverkeeper Network
300 Pond Street
Second Floor
Bristol, PA 19007
Phone: 215.369.1188
Fax: 215.369.1181
drn@delawareriverkeeper.org
http://www.delawareriverkeeper.org/

Deborah Goldberg
Managing Attorney
Earthjustice
156 William Street, Suite 800
New York, New York 10038
T: 212-791-1881 x227
F: 212-918-1556
www.earthjustice.org


Ryan Talbott
Forest Watch Coordinator
Allegheny Defense Project
117 West Wood Lane
Kane, PA 16735
www.alleghenydefense.org
rtalbott@alleghenydefense.org

Erika Staaf
PennEnvironment
1831 Murray Avenue, Suite 219
Pittsburgh, PA 15217
(412) 521-0943
www.PennEnvironment.org

Anonymous said...

Interesting comment 9:33 but you should do your homework on the noise issue. After the wells have been drilled and the gas is flowing, the noise is negligible when compared to the penetrating rumble, thumping, whooshing, whistling and vibratory pounding of a 420-foot-high industrial wind turbine. I'm not criticizing your comment or disputing your other points or opinions but I do think you would discover that noise is not an issue. Threats to water -- that is another story.
Peace be with you and thank you for reading this.

Ignitable Drinking Water From a Well in Candor, New York said...

Should be front page news

Ignitable Drinking Water From a Well in Candor, New York


http://www.toxicstargeting.com/MarcellusShale/videos/ignitable_drinking_water

Anonymous said...

11:08
Read the names of the groups posting this garbage.
Another bunch of nuts with a cause.
Bet they have sites on just about anything that means industry and jobs.
And to 9:33
Since when did the commissioners job description have anything to do with enviromental oversight one way or the other. Last time I checked it was to oversee county agencys and manage the budget.Was told this in no uncertain terms by one of them, and will go out of my way to hold them to it!
Whine to the DEP. Enviromental oversight is what we pay "them" to do.

Anonymous said...

"oversee county agencys and manage the budget"

That's all they are supposed to do, surely you jest?

Anonymous said...

Call me crazy,but check it out.I don't remember seeing Potter County President,or County King anywhere on the ballot.
That is not to say all things they do are bad.Just think they have overstepped their authority in a big way!
They are a group charged with overseeing County business and finance.

Anonymous said...

"penetrating rumble, thumping, whooshing, whistling and vibratory pounding of a 420-foot-high industrial wind turbine."

And you experienced this yourself? Or are you taking someone elses word for it?!

3:42:00 PM
You are so right!

Anonymous said...

I would not worry so much about the noise. In crosby they are drawing excessive water out of Potato Creek on a daily basis. Oh yes, I forgot to tell you about the gas that gets burned off. It looks like the whole hill side is on fired and it smells like your neighbors are buring oil... Stripping the land of its trees, wildlife, and our resources. What an answer.

Anonymous said...

They are drawing the amount of water deemed extra flow by the DEP after doing a gallon per minute flow study of the creek.
How do you deem that excessive? Do you even have any idea what the flow volume is?
As for burning gas,it is done with every deep well to clean the flow before it is sent to you. Would you like a little sand with your gas?
I work in Crosby every day .So far they have flared just 2 wells and that was weeks ago!
Damn Tree Hugger!

Anonymous said...

More 'testing the waters' needed in Pennsylvania
By Patriot-News Editorial Board
November 15, 2009, 7:17AM
New York City has one thing right: We are what we eat and drink, and the water used in Marcellus Shale gas drilling is not sounding very appetizing.

In a startling finding this week, radioactive material was discovered in the wastewater samples analyzed by the New York Department of Environmental Conservation.

More testing is sure to follow, but the announcement has New Yorkers on edge and should have Pennsylvanians looking closer, too.

The Marcellus Shale gas drilling process is extremely water intensive. Millions of gallons of water are run through the shale. The resulting wastewater is then treated and discharged, mostly back into public waterways.

A drilling rig used to bore thousands of feet into the earth to extract natural gas from the Marcellus shale deep underground is seen on the hill above the pond on John Dunn's farm in Houston, Pa. Wednesday, Oct. 29, 2008. (AP Photo)
That’s why this is an issue that goes well beyond trout fisherman and nature lovers who want to keep lands and streams pristine. It could impact anyone who relies on public water when something goes awry.

It’s also noteworthy that New York’s DEC is proposing its wastewater be sent to treatment plants here in the Keystone State. Their dirty runoff could all too soon be our problem.

The oil and gas industry wants to ensure they are compliant with water issues. To their credit, they have called for more tests, and drillers here in Pennsylvania are eager to abate public concern as they begin to expand their operations in the commonwealth.

But we need more than just tighter regulations on the books. Pennsylvania needs an active testing system to identify a water issue quickly so action can be taken.

http://www.pennlive.com/editorials/index.ssf/2009/11/more_testing_the_waters_needed.html