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Friday, March 12, 2010

Wind Farms Are Coming To Potter County

Wind Turbine Plans Coming Before Townships

eagleagaintallAt least two companies are planning to build dozens of industrial wind turbines in northern Potter County. Plans are in various stages of development affecting Ulysses, Hector, Allegany, Homer, Sweden, Hebron and Eulalia townships. County officials advise citizens who are seeking specific information on wind energy facilities in their municipalities to check with their local township officials.

There are provisions in the Potter County Subdivision and Land Development Ordinance requiring developers to meet certain standards for noise and setbacks. However, several townships have been working on their own less restrictive ordinances which, according to at least some legal interpretations, would supersede the county’s regulations.

The county would still have a role to play. At this month’s meeting, members of the Potter County Planning Commission approved a checklist recommended by Planning Director Charlotte Dietrich, containing 25 entries that developers would have to address when applying to the county. Additional information on the county’s regulations is available from the Planning Office at the Gunzburger Building, 274-8254.

Two of the nation’s more active wind energy companies, AES Corporation and Invenergy, are moving closer to developing networks of 400-foot-plus turbines to generate electricity on high-altitude private properties in Potter County. Industry analysts say federal and state incentives have made construction of wind turbines economically attractive.


41 comments :

Anonymous said...

if we can shove it in the ground, we can shove it in the air

Anonymous said...

just like in the bedroom you turn the fan on to push the gas around.

Go Green said...

Can't wait to see them here in Potter County, it is time to do our part for clean green energy!

Anonymous said...

one step ahead of oil & wind ... let's strip the hillsides and install solar panels

YEAH BABY !!!

Anonymous said...

The picture says it all and when these gigantic blades get rotating they can sound like a jet engine and a pulsating whoosh put together, jarring your head and even vibrating your home a good long ways away. People have no idea how big these are and how they completely dominate an area. Have you ever been to the Statue of Liberty and looked up from the base? Well thats 305 feet from your feet to way up to the tip of the flame. These loud, rotating and ground shaking monsters are more than 400 feet! So many of you who live in Potter County do not know what you are getting yourselfs into. I am so glad that we got the hell out of there before Potter County sold it's soul just so a handful of people could make a few bucks and screw everyone else while they're doing it because people were too dumb or too trusting to realize what was happening.

Anonymous said...

9:57 that is the most informative thing I have read on here in a long, long time! Beware Potter County!

Anonymous said...

These dinosaurs are not the future now that the Marcellus gas can be tapped. Notice how that rich Texan guy TBone Pickins came out for wind wind everywhere and then about 2 months later he dropped that and starting pouring his millions into gas. People will come to Potter County as a tourist attraction showing how a population was exploited and taken advantage of by these wind companies and all their federal and state subsidies and tax breaks. We are going to be a laughing stock, not a county that is admired for "green energy." It all sounds so appealing but it is really an outdated industry that is extremely inefficient and intrusive on residential areas and these things do not belong even within a mile of a residence or that family will be sorry. Wake up before it is too late!

Anonymous said...

wow...glad im not living there anymore. Noise and that aside...there goes the beautiful landscape.

Anonymous said...

Where are Potter County's local government leaders? Can they do anything to prevent this disaster or at least control where these things are put?

Anonymous said...

Not if you're sleeping with the enemy you can't.

Anonymous said...

Where are the residents of Potter County? Have many stood up and demonstrated loudly against them?
or just had their delicate little tails hung between their legs. Sorry guys...but you own guns to hunt and to protect your homes
and family....in this particular case, you must speak up...it's now or never. And you will not like skyscrapers with large blades and giant red flashing lights..your peace and heritage and sanity
will be forever stolen from you.
IF YOU REFUSE TO SPEAK UP.

Anonymous said...

I had no idea they were so bug and intrusive.

Anonymous said...

Most of the above posts seem to be the same person.
You have no following...Give it up!

Go Green said...

Unbelievable, can not believe you nay sayers!

There was no loud noise, vibration or swooshing sound from the turbines we looked into. We heard all this bad hype so we decided to go see for ourselves. We stood within 500 feet of these type of turbines and felt no vibration at all! The breeze blowing the leaves made more noise than the blades from the turbines.

Those giant red flashing lights are no more annoying than the ones on the towers around here all ready.

The township leaders will decide the regulations on these turbines and that is as it should be!

Anonymous said...

To Go Green: There are so many reports of people who have been forced to move out of their houses because of the noise from these monsterous big white machines. You can browse the internet and see what these have done on other areas. I know the web is not a reliable source but if you contact these people yourself you will find out these horrors are real. You write that the township leaders will decide on the regulations and that is as it should be. Yes. And they need to be fully educated and aware before that make those decisions. Do you agree with that? Doing that investigation involves a lot more than a trip or two to a site or two because there are many factors like how much wind is blowing and from what direction and more and more and more. That is called being a responsible elected official.

Anonymous said...

Go Green,

Not necessarily against you, but sound travels out in a cone shape pattern so I suspect it's possible that to a certain point these things are louder further away then standing right underneath them.

Anonymous said...

We spent time in California last summer, in the middle of acres and acres of wind turbines just a tall and taller, standing right at their feet. And yet, the only noise was the traffic on the highway nearby. These windmills are not loud and vibrating and explosive. They are more quiet than the rustle of wind in the leaves of the trees. If you want to worry about something, worry about the Marcellus Shale gas well drilling and the impact it will have on the land with acres disrupted for roads and parking pads and frack ponds filled with the most deadly chemicals known. If we want clean energy, go with windmills. And they are really a beautiful sight along a ridgeline...not only because they are beautiful but because of the clean energy they truly represent.

Anonymous said...

March 14, 2010 8:09:00 AM
March 14, 2010 12:18:00 PM
You two are so right! Bring on the clean energy, we need it!

Ugotta B Kiddin said...

"sound travels out in a cone shape pattern "

What a crock!!! If it traveled in a cone shape, how come you can hear someone talking if you come up behind them. When the turbine blade spins around....which way is the "cone" facing?

Sound travels in any direction that it is not impeded and bounces off of surfaces.

You all need to just give it up....the turbines are already approved as are the gas wells and there is nothing that any of you can do to stop the wheels on the bus from going round and round.

Anonymous said...

'turbines are already approved.'
what the heck does that mean?

Anonymous said...

3:29
Just learn to watch and you just might learn something.

Anonymous said...

March 14, 2010 3:29:00 PM

Contracts were signed and leases were completed 5 to 6 years ago for most of the turbines that are coming. BEFORE the save gods country people wasted the counties time and money trying to stop them!

How's that working for ya now SGC?!

They did not realize townships ordinances over ride County! They should have been more worried about water pollution instead of noise pollution...

Anonymous said...

U Gotta be Kidding,

You're name fits. Are you really asking that question.....the answer is how many 425 ft people have you snuck up on??

Dude, get any 5th through 8th grade science book and it will verify the claim that sound travels in a cone shape pattern. Can you not hear someone better when they are facing you as opposed to their back to you. Why are megaphones, loud speakers, etc in cone shape patterns. Why don't you think before you type anything as stupid as you just typed.

I specifically said in my post I'm not sure where I stand on this issue but merely pointing out a fact to the people that say "i stood right underneath them and didn't hear a thing" that based on the way sounds travel it is possible that it could be louder further away albeit that is certainly counterintuitive.

Anonymous said...

Im all for a nuclear reactor in West Branch Township.

Anonymous said...

I have done a lot of checking on windmills and have found that if you are a neighboring landowner who does not agree with windmills they can put a attachment similar to a playing card in bycical wheels to make more noise.

Anonymous said...

The wind turbines in this picture are NOT a 2.5 megawatt, 430ft high wind turbine. This picture is not showing the 108 turbines proposed for Ulysses and Allegany township.

Anonymous said...

... now if you were to find some rare flight pattern of some endangered bird, you might have a chance to stop this.

Anonymous said...

It is unfair that the township supervisors can override the county ordinance. Our property rights are not being protected. Wind Turbines are noisy and the representatives from the companies have been known to mislead people into believing the are quite and cause no problems..when the facts show so many people have experienced problems. Once, they are built it is too late.

Anonymous said...

Wind Turbine companies should not only compensate land owners that lease but also the affected homeowners that live around them as well. We all have to put up with them.

Anonymous said...

They aren't build in the USA either...our tax dollars are all going overseas to create jobs in other countries that manufacture wind turbines. 80% of the stimulus money that was designated for Wind Energy has been lost to overseas firms...it's now gone with the wind ...forever...

Anonymous said...

2 of the Township Supervisors that are voting on the Turbine issue are also having them put on there land. I wonder how tey will vote. I see a major conflict of interest here What a Joke the Township is. The fact that a couple of farmers with no idea what they are doing can put together a half a$$ed saldo and supercede the Countys saldo (which was professionally done) is a travisty. Local politics is a joke. When these monsters are up and everyone sees they are all that SGC has said they are it will be to late. Man am I glad I don't live in Potter anymore.

Even better is the fact that townsfolk believe they are going to create jobs. What a Joke!!!! they will all be from out of State and the couple Mexicans left behind to maintain them will be the new jobs. Good job people of Potter!! Build them you will all see once it is too late.

Anonymous said...

All I know is I'll be taking the new Subway to my new Windmill Tender Job and back home to my new plasma flatscreen.

What me worry?

Anonymous said...

I smell a complaint to the PA Ethics Comission brewing.

Solomon's words for the wise said...

How about if the Townships require free wireless internet and cell phone service be included on these structures so everyone can benefit.

Anonymous said...

DAMN!!! Stick one at the Potter County Fair Ground and at fair time take the blades off and hook up a ferris wheel.

Anonymous said...

To S.W.W 11:30 pm...NOW that's the best idea yet..They are coming.Why not some ideas to benefit,rather than complaining?

Oz said...

While I agree too many of these turbine parts are being built outside of the USA, we have started production of them right here in PA! I agree they should be 100% made in the USA! At least there are SOME jobs being created in PA that are not just for the giant construction company that has been in Fast Eddies back pocket for years! This has only taken work away from our state men and women, bidding out like this has not saved our state enough money to fix roads and bridges!

I agree with Solomon about the cell service BUT look at the State built and funded towers put up for the STATE ONLY! Cell service should be on each and every one of them, after all we are being charged 9-1-1 fees on each and every cell phone and land line! Some of us have land lines and family plans with 2 to 6 cell phones on them, that adds up to be quit a bit each month.

March 14, 2010 10:30:00 PM

"couple of farmers that with no idea what they are doing"
You have got to be kidding, what a half a$$ed remark that one is! Mr. Hoopes has been a very successful farmer for decades so get off your soap box will ya?!

Each and every voter in Ulysses township KNEW how these men felt about the wind business BEFORE they were voted into office in the last election.

Why don't you people STOP trying to make this into something it is not! Making it sound like it was a big secret, "saldo and supercede (supersede)the Countys (Counties) saldo (which was professionally done) is a travisty (travesty)". The travesty here is that a large amount of county tax money was WASTED, while the commissioners knew or should have known that townships are able to set their own regulations!

Anonymous said...

Are they going to have manned observation towers to watch for the migrating birds? They have them in Europe and it could be a job for at least one of us unemployed.

Anonymous said...

Economist: gas industry will 'transform' the area!!

If that's the case..why destroy the natural beautiful with useless Turbines when we have enough gas to make all of the farmers rich and
to enhance our beautiful area.

Isn't that twisted logic. The gas is outs..the turbines are made abroad and the workers are often Mexicans...you can spin all you want. But

Wind is a bad deal for this area and selfishly desired. Someday
a few will be vilified. You will all be loathed and not the heroes you perceive yourself to be.

Anonymous said...

Novel idea... lets round up some corn 'n tatters and make some good ole Potter County white lightning.

Anonymous said...

Ok I live in bedford county we have put in windmills and I've stood less than 50 yards from one you cannot feel any vibration what so ever. Plus the only noise you hear is like a refrigerator. They are one of the best things to get. And I'm even an oilhalic