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Saturday, January 1, 2011

Electric Rates Went Up 16% Today For Penelec Customers

Penelec Rates to Rise
WESB NEWS

Penelec customers will see big increases in their electric bills this coming year, beginning today. Residential electric rates will rise 16 percent and business rates around 12 percent. The increases are because of rate caps that expire this year.

26 comments :

Anonymous said...

Well "Happy New Year to you too".

Anonymous said...

still not in the rate neighborhood of TRI COUNTY REC (rates excessively costly)

Give me my FREE Stuff said...

Being a fat welfare slob sounds better everday.

Live off the taxpayers Baby, Live off the taxpayers!

Anonymous said...

Aren't these public utilities regulated.The price of Natural gas that they are, or should be generating with is at an all time low. They also run on a skeleton work force.We can't let these crooks get away with this robbery.Why don't we mandate that we put Alchol in our gasoline so we get worse mileage or tell Joe homeowner he can't have a outside wood boiler.Politicians are crazy!

Anonymous said...

Well with the rate increase these jokers better freakin get out here and read my meter. Not having enough people is not an excuse anymore. With the rate increase they had better damn well hire someone. They didn't read my meter for 6 months. Then when I complained they started doing it every other month. Weaksauce.

Anonymous said...

'Aren't these public utilities regulated."
Do you live under a rock? They have been talking about this upcoming deregulation for a long time now. I got a letter stating TriCounty would go up 3%...and there was an option to decide who delivers my power. I haven't looked into that yet.

Anonymous said...

2:24 You must be a low level polatician (probably tax colector) to defend the rate increase.Sure you can shop and possibly save pennies but the bulk of your bill will be transportation charges like GPU does with the gas.
"Do you live under a rock?"
Not yet,but if you keep getting in my pocket I will probably have to.You better look into it.

Anonymous said...

Add to this rate another 20% for wind turbine generated electric and those wind turbine supporters (and the rest of us) can really enjoy paying our electric bills.

Anonymous said...

We shot down windfarms in this area. We suffer now.
Good thing our gas prices are going down with all this natural gas being drilled here but sold outside of the US.
Oh wait..
Potter County made its bed. Lay in it.

Anonymous said...

going "green", recycling and conserving seems to end up costing us more

Anonymous said...

4:30
How are we going green. We are taking the anti-green approaches with hydraulic frac-ing and batting down windmills. Private indivuals that set up windmills get paid by the electric companies. Forbidding them being built is nothing short of moronic.
Potter County has failed horribly at going green. They have failed horribly at leveraging gas companies in to deals to benefit the area in any way shape or form.

Private land owners are making money, the hotels are making money. A few private businesses have made money, but its done nothing for the community as a whole.

Anonymous said...

4:47
Since when did running a business have the requirement attached to it that you had to do something for the community as a whole?
You must be one of those "Entitlement Boomers"
If someone is making money,I am entitled to some of it.
Beats the **** out of earning it yourself!

Anonymous said...

The only way to get back at the electric company is to complain to the public utility commission about poor service... if you have power dips, blinking lights or mini outages.... open a claim against them and follow it through to the end.... They absolutly hate that ! Your problem WILL be fixed. If they wanna raise our rates it will come at a cost to them also if we all do this

Anonymous said...

5:20 No where did I say that businesses should be required to kick back. The gas industry made the claims that this would offer cheaper gas for heating in the area as well as generate jobs where potter county has suffered.

The job creation has been a joke. Thousands of people are trucked in from all over the US, canada, africa and south america. However, Potter County has seen a steady increase in joblessness. It was at almost 10% when adelphia crumbled and now we are up to 12%.

So if 1400 people are out of work and have been out of work, but thousands of workers are being imported, how does that work?

Dont assume. I am gainfully employed. I have been gainfully employed during this recession. If I lose my job I will get another. I dont sit around. But I do expect that these oil companies live up to the promises they have been making.

Why do they pay two guys from west virginia to stand at the water pump station at the allegany in roulette? Why was this job not given to local residents? Their job is to stand there and watch to see if mud is stirred up. Are you telling me that this job is not some thing a hungry family in roulette couldnt manage?

I find it great that the local businesses are seeing an increase in customers. That being said, I'd be happier if I saw the jobless rate in Potter County go down. If our natural gas prices went down. Our heating bills should be nothing as long as I read stories on here that local residents are killed in car accidents involving water tankers, or that a trucker sped through an intersection and clipped the front off a teenagers pickup in front of fisk hollow stripmine.

As long as our lives are being disrupted we certainly should be afforded more, as a community. We are entitled if our children are at risk because of reckless truck drivers. We are entitled to more as long as our back roads such as kim hill, card creek and fishing creek are getting wrecked by trucks whose weight surpasses what should be on the road.

They should have to pay for the repairs on roads, not my taxes. Gas companies should pay for the increase in flood insurance because their stripping the trees on mountain tops causes worse flooding during the thaws.

But this is all about business, right?
Its about our cost of living being increased because our local government sold out. So in a few years when this area is destitute, enjoy being too poor to move anywhere else.

Anonymous said...

Why do they pay two guys from west virginia to stand at the water pump station at the allegany in roulette? Why was this job not given to local residents? Their job is to stand there and watch to see if mud is stirred up. Are you telling me that this job is not some thing a hungry family in roulette couldnt manage?

6:22 My nephew was hired for this job. He was fired when he let the water freeze up. So they did hire a local. Actually he was from Emporium.

Anonymous said...

Just remember who gave these gas companies the right to drill on our
State Game Lands ? I think that it was our GREAT PA. GOVERNOR . Why would he give a hoot ? He doesn't live here and probably got a "kick back" Every time these over loaded big trucks get stopped, they just pay the fines and do it again because money is nothing to them.Some of these truck drivers don't even have a drivers license.
But getting back to the first part of my paragraph: these trees that are gone now, they no longer
hold the precious water that we are seeing disappear and what is still to come is possible mud slides and more flooding. But who cares,right?
Watch these guys that are hauling water from the Allegheny. There are some laws about how much they are allowed to take at any one time.I am not sure what that is all about.
And what I did hear -there will be no relief in our heating bills because all this gas will be put in the pipe line and piped out of here. SO THERE WE GO. We will be paying more to truck it back here like we are seeing on our gas bill right now. Getting that gas to my home costs more than the gas I use.
What the heck-damn if you do damn if you don't. Just get a second job. Don't plan on welfare now-you make too much money!!!!!

Anonymous said...

6:22
You make alot of statements and assumptions without any basis in fact.
Do you have any numbers on the actual amount of local people that are now employed in the gas industry, or are you just making that statement because you don't know any? I suspect the later.
The last tme I checked the pumps at Roulette,(today)those pumps were being manned by a company from Marshburg,and there is a little more to it than making sure there is no mud stirred up.Could it be that their people can't live out there and the only other people that know anything about the pumps happen to be from West Virginia?
As for the roads,they are all bonded by those companys(at a pretty salty rate)and were not the pride of the state to start with.
There are thousands of trucks on Pa's roads every day resulting in hundreds of accidents just like car traffic.To feel you are owed something above what insurance companys pay out to those involved because some of those accidents are gas and oil related is absurd.
Hence the "Entitlement Boomer" statement.Take a good look around and try and justify the statement that this industry has not become a huge economic factor in this area already!

Anonymous said...

The whole 10-year rate cap thing only made us complacent instead of encouraging competition like it was suppose to. I really think what gov't thought was going to happen with this legislation -- encourage competition amongst energy suppliers thus drive down costs didn't happen because of the rate cap they allowed for the energy distribution companies...such as Penelec thus the competiion will just now be starting to get your business. They should of seen that it didn't work for the phone companies so I highly doubt it will work with gas & electric. The legislature did nothing with this good intentioned idea accept find a way to further screw the middle class. It'll be just like your phone, TV cable or dish network services...minimal price differences that only last a year or two then shop again. I too haven't looked into the energy supplier thing yet either. I guess we all don't act until we are pushed to do so...good luck to us all we are gonna need it.

Anonymous said...

11:09
We walked up to them and asked. They were from west virginia. They stated they just got done training for the job two weeks before we asked.I am not assuming.

As far as the unemployment rate raising, again, not an assumption. That is public knowledge, you're welcome to research that yourself, I have. Oh you were assuming again.

Flood insurance rates did rise with in the last two years, this is not an assumption. That is fact.

Tree's at the top of the mountain prevent water from shedding too fast on to ground level, Hence the name watershed, Again, not an assumption, this is fact.

If I pay taxes for road repairs for gas to be drilled and shipped to canada and china I am not feeling entitled you jackass.I should not have to pay taxes for that. Im glad you want to throw away your money but I sure as hell dont. I bet you think you're a conservative republican.

You want my taxes to go to some one trucking natural gas out of the country? Who is the entitlement boomer?

Really??? said...

12:57:00 PM
Do you have any idea what truck owners and trucking companies PAY for Heavy Highway Use Tax, Unified Carriers Asso Tax, Road Tax, Fuel Tax (includes Federal, State and Oil Franchise),Truck Apportioned Registration and Trailer Registrations? These taxes are paid by state, for each and every state they run in and for around here that means mainly PA & NY!

It is not the trucking industries fault that North of 80 is a joke and WE HAVE NOT ROAD BASE TO START WITH, you can thank the educated idiots in Harrisburg for this, and Fast Eddie has been their Ring Leader for 8 years now....This is why we have had seasonal bonding of roads that the trucking industry has had to pay to bond and pay to repair any damage they caused to truck their goods, did you? How much did you pay to bond and repair any of these roads, YOU didn't! But now that we have a new industry in the area using these roads they are all posted year round. I am sure this has effected the bottom line of the local truck owners and trucking companies more than it has yours!

Don't knock yourself out by patting your own back there until YOU know just how much tax each and every truck owner and trucking company PAYS IN TAXES for the roads they use and the fuel and tires they need to do so...you can take that measly tax you pay and do you know what with it!!!!!

Show us where YOU think YOU have paid so much more than the trucking industry has in PA, please I would like to see your annual total and what portion of it went for road repairs!

As for Penelec raising its rates, this is a joke. I remember receiving a notice from them quit some time ago telling me I should not notice too much of an increase in my rates as they were slowing raising their rates each month in 2010, what a joke now 16%! They do not consider that to be noticeable??? The politicians had better get their heads out of their butts in this great state of PA because we tax paying citizens are darn fed up...so much for that extra money you were going to have in your pocket to spend from the social security tax rate going down 2% in your first paycheck of 2011, you will need that 2% and more to keep the lights on!

Anonymous said...

You are aware that other counties through out the state, other townships through out the state also, charge the gas drilling companies to repair the roads?

Its common practice through the rest of the state, it however is not being done in potter. Our politicians are too afraid of scaring them off.

I am not pulling this out of thin air. Other districts charge the gas companies for these repairs. If you want to throw your money away go toss it in to the water. I dont give a damned how much they are being taxed, they should be taxed 10 times more as long as they are ruining the land and roads.


Your entire post literally said nothing. You provided no information, you just typed in caps occasionally to punctuate "GRR ME ANGRY".

Please, if you are going to speak in adult conversations, bring some adult responses.

Anonymous said...

Saturday, January 1, 2011 3:39:00 PM EST
Nope, not a "polatician" nor a politician...just and average Joe...but seriously, they have been talking about the deregulation forever...it's been in my electric bill for at least 6 to 8 months now. It has also been all over the radio and TV.

Anonymous said...

The problem wih hiring locals is that they screw up and get fired because here in Pa welfare pays well and they can stay home nice and warm with their FREE gas and watch their big 40 inch TV on their FREE electric that us working saps pay. Theire is sure something wrong with this picture . The working people should stand up for their rights but they won't.

Anonymous said...

12:57
-You want my taxes to go to someone "trucking" natural gas out of the country-
Sorry, but that statement shows so much lack of knowlege on the subject of natural gas extraction at so many levels that it boggels the mind.It renders any point that you have tried to make prior just...just... (there aren't even words)
PLEASE....Aquire some knowlege of the subject matter first.Then obtain an opinion.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, to be specific the reserves here are full and it is being piped over to canada currently. Are you saying this is false now?
Now you are just argueing semantics. The end result is the same. Trucks destroying our roads, gas being shipped to canada, our heating prices go up, our taxes go up, our insurance goes up.

Really??? said...

2:35:00 PM

Ha Ha...I guess you have no idea just how much money some of these gas companies and local trucking companies have paid the Commonwealth of PA for road bonding and road repairs in Potter County all ready. Yes, they have paid the bills not you or your tax dollars!

"Its common practice through the rest of the state, it however is not being done in potter. Our politicians are too afraid of scaring them off.".....Oh really? Maybe you need to get your head out of the sand and call Clearfield, the main office for our road bonding process, ask for Jeff you will be educated on this subject. I know because I have personally bonded roads in PA and in Potter County for over 25 years. But go ahead keep posting useless information on here because you do not understand what you are blogging about, it is entertaining!

Keep blowing in the wind, because that is what you are doing. There are quit a few local businesses that own and operate water trucks, dump trucks and log trucks that are doing work for these companies and they bond the roads as well. Each and every company that runs on a posted road MUST bond it, at times there has been 5 to 10 to 15 owner operators and trucking companies putting up the road bonding fee and paying the road repair bills. This road damage is not being paid for by you, we pay for each and every pot hole, not you!

"Please, if you are going to speak in adult conversations, bring some adult responses".......Was this adult enought for you? Maybe you need to start a business of your own, operate it for 30 years and then have some blogger think they know more about a very expensive part of your operation, ya, you are very adult!