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Friday, August 24, 2012

Did PA authorities fail kids in fire?

Did PA authorities fail kids in fire?

Published : Friday, 24 Aug 2012, 7:06 PM EDT
BOLIVAR, N.Y. (WIVB) - Some serious questions linger in the ashes of a tragic southern tier fire that killed a Bolivar woman and two young grandchildren. Did Pennsylvania child welfare authorities fail those kids by putting them in harm's way?  More with video....

15 comments :

Anonymous said...

Although it's sad what happened here, I don't believe there was any gross system failure here. The system always trys to keep famiy's together. In this case the grandchildren went with their grandparents. No one would love and care for them more than their own blood. Apparently the conditions of the household might have been poor, but not so deplorable that it was a concern. It's so unfortunate.

Anonymous said...

Yes ...someone needs to answer to this...what happened to background checks and home conditions checks...these kids never stood a chance..open your eyes people..

Anonymous said...

As far as I am concerned the only people that "failed" these kids were the parents, who were in jail for DRUGS and CHILD ENDANGERMENT AND ANIMAL CRUELTY....and the grandparents, who apparently didn't have sense enough to clean up the house and surroundings...It's sad that people are pointing their fingers to Child Services....they are stretched as far as they can be both financially and personnel wise.....AND NO i am not a child services worker...just a single mother who takes care of her child and doesn't blame others for her mistakes...These parents need to take responsibility for their own actions.....I suppose now they will try to sue the Child Services Dept. or the state.....Suck it up and move past this and take care of the child you have left...I have no time for people who won't try to help themselves......

Anonymous said...

We all like to think that being with family is the best option. However, the reality is that family teaches family. Obviously, this cycle of drugs, deplorable housing and looking the other way continues in this family. There are times when it is best, convenient, cheaper to keep the family together. Then there are times when enough is enough. Regardless of either situation, safety should be paramount in both. From the surface, this appears to be a placement of convenience and that came with a huge price tag. There is a single surviving sibling who will forever be reminded of the loss of his siblings. He will likely have anxiety and separation issues his whole life long. How about the guilt of being the sole surviving sibling? This is a case where a placement in a foster home, even if for a short period of time, would have been the safest plan. Children should not be subject to the poor choices of family who can not keep basic necessities. Water was an issue, deplorable conditions was an issue, how about the basic smoke detectors? Issue. If CYS is the agency responsible for keeping our children safe, should they not be held accountable for their poor choice here? Allowing the grandparents to shuffle the children between family members? That should have been addressed. The grandparents who passed off the children to other family members should also be held accountable for their neglect. At some point families with issues need to be taught to respect and obey agencies in authority. This is out of control and 3 people lost their lives. God have mercy on their souls. CYS and the grandparents should collectively be held accountable for the deaths of these children.

Anonymous said...

She was the grandparent doing what she thought was best. Now let's just say.......they were just staying at the grandparents because that's what a lot of grandchildren do at times rather than family problems and they were placed there. Who would you blame then? The parents for letting them go to the grandparents or the grandparents for letting/wanting a visit from their grandchildren?

Anonymous said...

The parents failed the kids!

Anonymous said...

10:59

I couldnt disagree more. I am a foster parent and believe me you couldnt be more wrong when you say no one could love them more. I have adopted several children from the system, and I am currently in the process of adopting another. First of all the system put them in an unsafe house, obviously the caseworkers and supervisors for cys potter county did not do their jobs, They should be held accountable. The safety of the child comes first and foremost. CYS took them out of the pan and into the fire, in this case, literally.

Anonymous said...

it was no system failure here i know the family and it all based on who will be getting the welfare money for the kids that is way and tina sister was one of them all about the money
tina you did a good job R.i.p my love

one of your true friends:) you are in my thoughts in prayers cys you did a great job

Anonymous said...

i was 5 years old when my parents, did not want me. i lived with my grandparents my parents sined off there right's as long parents are willing to sin papers the courts will order it because every one agreed on it..so plaase don't plame cys i am 13 now and so happy that i live with my
grandparent's i just feel like my parents was not ready to raise me
my spelling is off but who care's

i dont know these people but all we can do is pray for everyone
please think of the kids before people make a big deal out of nothing..

Anonymous said...

I am wondering what everyone would have to say if CPS actually had placed these children in an 'appoved' foster home and a similar fire occured at the foster home with loss of lives. I'm sure everyone one would be saying CPS should NOT have placed them in a foster home when there where family memebers who could have cared for them.
The bottom line is no house if fire proof, any home can burn to the ground and take precious lives with it. We all want to believe that we will/would be able to get our whole family out of a burning home in the middle of the night, but in reality we never can be too sure. This whold thing is a horrible tragedy that could have happened no matter where those children were living at the time.

Anonymous said...

Saturday, August 25, 2012 11:43:00 AM EDT well said
look at the fire in bradford pa they all lost there pets
when it comes to a fire your judgement is not on the right key level..let's stop doing the blame game here just let these 3 r.i.p
may god be with them all

Anonymous said...

Saturday, August 25, 2012 11:43:00 AM EDT never better said

Anonymous said...

If those children were placed in an approved foster home, (emergency custody) until a family member was deemed fit for the kids to move there, they would still be alive today. PERIOD !!! CYS, Parents,Grandparents, Aunts, Uncles, Neighbors, and anyone else that knew of the condition they were living in, all failed these kids.

Anonymous said...

Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:18:00 PM EDT if you new about the condition they were living in, u failed those kids as well and how come you never turned it in to cys if you new it was so bad!!so it could not have been to bad ..because know they are gone now you have something to blame it on but your self..people need to back off right now and let them all rest in peace..

Anonymous said...

Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:18:00 PM EDT why didn't you call cys then
it make's you look bad too