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Thursday, August 20, 2015

Should Coudersport Move It's Arboretum So Sheetz Can Expand?

Coudersport Borough Council Meeting photo by Elaine Russell for Solomon's words
 
*A NEW SHEETZ PROPOSAL FOR COUDERSPORT*

Todd Brown  Photo by Elaine Russell
At last night's meeting, Coudersport Borough Council heard a new proposal involving Sheetz's desire to expand onto the part of the Arboretum adjacent to the current Sheetz location. 


The proposal, presented by Potter Lands LLC, would involve the real estate group buying 107 S Main St., where Rep. Martin Causer's office now rents space, and moving a section of the Arboretum to that corner lot. 


Potter Lands would then turn that property
over to the borough, in a trade for the section of the Arboretum that Sheetz is interested in.  Read more...

31 comments :

Better Than You said...

Hail the almighty dollar.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure this will happen cause that's politics in potter county!

Anonymous said...

Lets just tell Sheetz to get lost. We don't want any type of growth in the area. We already have two grocery stores and a Dollar General. The only growth we have seen is in truck traffic. While we are at it lets tell Sheetz to pull up stakes altogether. Those employees can join the 20 or so employees that lost their jobs at Morgan last week in the unemployment line. We can have growth and success without compromising Coudersport's beauty.

Anonymous said...

Potter Lands LLC.....Holmberg and Brown

Anonymous said...

ya but some Sheetz are closing there door's how do you know it won't happen to are Sheetz ....need a kfc or toco bell

Anonymous said...

Will the Vets capitulate to the power s that be or will they show some backbone or sell out to the almighty dollar? Brown’s been contacting every property owner on main st trying to make a deal. Sheetz is stuck until they think outside if the box.

This “expansion” is not big enough to meet the modern day needs of the marketplace. More will be asked in the future, guaranteed, I’ve spoken to them.

All the work and effort put into the Arboretum only to be uprooted for corporate interested. Where’s your fricken backbone for once and for all

It’s a shame what we have sunk to. So Todd Brown & his wife Micki and Pa Lands located at 705 S. Main St Coudersport benefits, Amy Marsh benefits by selling her overpriced property, The Town get a piddle piece, Sheetz benefits and can sell beer and the town gets the shaft as usual. Why does the new administration wake the hell up and grow this town in the proper manner. .

Anonymous said...

...and a dictionary

Anonymous said...

Absolutely NOT!

Anonymous said...

It is about time people wake up around this town instead of letting the fast talkers call the shots.
While you sputter about this stuff the Redevelopment Authority and some shell corporation is just rolling along and nobody pays any attention. They got the Adelphia palace into the hands of the Rigases and off the tax rolls. They got the Bud Lefever's apartments on Jenkins Hill into the hands of the Hospital. They own the old Adelphia lots on Vine Street from Tom Majot and paid him a lot more than he paid for them. Now they are going after Jimmy Bruzzis old place to probably knock that down and take it off the tax rolls. John Wright does the wheelin and dealin and the Authority Director Dave Buckler says I don't know much about that so ask John. That was what his quote was in the paper.
Like I said people are maybe waking up. Going to the Boro Council meetings is a start. The Redevelopment Authority meetings are open to the public. The Commissioner's can change the Redevelopment Authority by naming new members so go to their meetings too.
Talking about these things there is how you can turn things around, not writing about it here.

Anonymous said...

Just move it to one of the unused parking lots behind it.

Anonymous said...

12:37 why are getting on the current administration about a meeting? They have not agreed to expanding Sheetz yet you are already seemingly berating them for doing it.
I don't want to see the arboretum moved either but the comments above about telling Sheetz to leave altogether are foolish. They want growth but want a business to leave, leaving yet another empty shell of a business. Growth brings along change and jobs both of which a comment above sounds like they're against.

ANON said...

Here's the deal...Sheetz will expand, how they expand is what we can try to control. What I would personally not like to see is what happened in Port A where they up and move...and leave a vacant building next to the Arboretum that everyone is so concerned about. I believe that is what they are going after here. Make everyone happy, save the Arboretum and a vacant Sheetz store.

Mary said...

While there is an element that is trying to preserve what is good and historic in Coudersport; ie. the C & P A Depot and adjoining arboretum, we have another faction only interested in the almighty dollar. Let the residents stand up to the greedy for once, and leave the arboretum and our beautiful Depot intact.

The corner lot across from McDonalds?? That would be a travesty. It is no where near big enough! Come on Coudersport, Stand up to Sheetz and their money men!!

Anonymous said...

“We don't want any type of growth in the area. ..We can have growth and success without compromising Coudersport's beauty.”
Spoken like a true ignorant hick. How can you have growth and success if you stand in the way of growth? Coudersport will always be small town- even was in the boom days of early 2000’s before Adelphia fell. And now what’s left to support the town? And you want to stunt any kind of growth even more? You you want Coudersport to be a small town, or a ghost town? Sheetz is not going to ruin Couderport’s ‘beauty’. We’ll always have that, but having a few solid businesses would help. I’ve lived here almost 20 years, and I’ve never seen people so hell bent on positive change. You worried C-Town is going to turn into a city? Its not, it never will. Put down the pitchforks and think a little….

Jason said...

Coudersport's beauty? Four or five trees and a run down train car is not worth more than the jobs and taxes paid for schools in the area. You sir have hillbilly logic.

Unknown said...

Coudersport may be beautiful but those working at sheetz also have families that they need to provide for... If nothing grows or expands in Little Old Coudersport then soon everyone will be out of jobs and everyone will have to relocate. You can't expect that of everyone. I feel for those who have lost their jobs at Morgan however just because that has happened it doesn't mean you can be a sour puss.

Unknown said...

I couldn't agree more.

G. Hosephat said...

I'm not surprised about people losing their jobs at Morgan. That company has had regular layoffs over the years since the mid 1980's and depends on contracts to survive. As afar as I can tell, the only thriving businesses in Coudy are Sheetz and Dollar General. It seems that the local economy would just give in and allow the growth to happen. At least something is growing in town......totally unlike the "ghost town" that main street has become. People need to quit pointing fingers and get out of the last century.

Anonymous said...

If Sheetz wants to expand, why doesn't the real estate man who talked with council make an offer to the Kudricks for their property? Maybe it would be an offer they couldn't resist. I wonder if Todd Brown knocked on their door? That would make more sense then taking a property off the tax rolls, wouldn't it? The county needs its tax base and with property being purchased by the county and now this suggestion, how will everyone be able to live here? We all need to stay positive as what we do and how we act reflects on our community.

It was quite a surprise to hear of this proposal, however that does not mean that the Borough Council will approve it. Yes, I believe that politics are involved here, however we all must stand united.

Anonymous said...

Those of you that think C-port is beautiful need to get out more. The scenery may be but the town not so much. Lots of places in disrepair.

Anonymous said...

How about moving sheetz to expand the arboretum. Sheetz can go anywhere (almost) and we could have a beautiful scenic town center. Get some seriously motivated people, some money, have the borough negotiate the land swap with property it may already own that would be of interest to a gas station, negotiate cost of removal of the old building and off we go. no less property on the tax roll, bigger arboretum, bigger sheetz. You could put a pretty sweet sheetz in the old Gleason auto sales building/lot. (EYE SORE), land swap land swap etc. until we get it right Explain who loses in this one.... yes requires some work..oh no :)..

Anonymous said...

I love the quote by Brown "They'll either renovate the store in its current location, or move outside of town, which will hurt the downtown business district". This is the same individual that less than a year ago brokered a deal that resulted in Fastenal moving from it's current downtown business district location into a rental owned by he and Holmberg. I believe in the free market system so more power to them, but please don't be fooled that they are in this to save the arboretum they are in this to put coin in the pocket. Sheetz is doing what any company would do that is at full capacity....expanding!!

Anonymous said...

Dear Coudy Citizens,
We, the citizens of Smethport will be more than happy to have your Sheetz relocate to our town.
You can then keep your old Sheetz property, and your arboretum.
Oh wait a minute, I forgot, all the available lots for a Sheetz store are already tied up with a couple families
that don't want Sheetz to compete with their businesses. You people should feel lucky that you have a Sheetz.


Anonymous said...

Sorry but the arboretum should stay where it is. I'll agree that Sheetz is overcrowded and too small for the business it does at this point. I don't think the corner lot for the arboretum will be big enough for that either. While I don't have the answer, I guess I don't have suggestions either. What I do know is that Coudersport has alot of vacant buildings that need to be occupied before building new ones. JCPENNEY building is a prime example. Renovate that building the way it should be done and try to get someone to come here. I would love to see Peebles Marshalls any of those businesses come here. Also noted that Coudersport really does not need another Dollar General. Something more useful please and thank you?

Anonymous said...

What if someone made a deal with Kudricks Service Center to possibly move to Gleasons old place. Then Sheetz could expand towards McDs. I know it's more complex than that but an auto place for an auto place and more room for Sheetz arboretum is left untouched.

Anonymous said...

When did we suspend reality and start believing used car salesman had our best interest at heart. Fastnal .
705’s a busy place –
Haven Of Hope Foundation Inc
New Way Lumber
Potter Lands LLC
Eqe LLC – Think Denton Hill
Alliance Fleet Co.

Timothy D. Krise to Potter Lands LLC, lot in Coudersport Borough, $135,000
Joanne T. Petrosewitz to Potter Lands LLC, 1.2 acre in Coudersport Borough, $200,000

Sheetz is going nowhere, they need to be downtown.

Maybe we will get a 3rd dollar general store next, ya never know.

Just more participants in the shell game of The Coudersport Circle of Love, where properties and entities get passed around like a cheap bottle of liquor.

Anonymous said...

Let them expand. Coudersport doesn't have much to look at anyway. What a joke thinking it's just so great and beautiful no different then any other town around

Anonymous said...

If you think Sheetz needs to stay here in Coudersport, think again go look at Johnsburg!!!!! Wake up and start helping the business and not hamper them from growing. It is always a struggle when you want to expand in Coudersport or put something new in. Come on people grow this town.

Anonymous said...

If I was Sheetz I'd move right out of town by the huge empty lot by Street Machines. That way Coudersport has zero say how they expand. It then will be out of the community and another vacant building can join the growing numbers. Look, it's what the public wants, No let me clear that up, it's what the OLD retired people want. How many people live in Coudersport ages 24 - 40 Hmm maybe ten.

Anonymous said...

Problem with the Coudersport Service Center/Kudrick property is not so much the surface as the rusting gasoline tanks under there and don't forget there was a gas station just up the road where the TAX EXEMPT (ridiculous!) former Adelphia Taj Majal was built. Ignorance is bliss when it comes to those inevitable leaking gas tanks. And somebody better start holding that Redevelopment Authority accountable. If the members of that authority don't give a damn and are content to let the director run amuck then they should resign. There are a lot of dirty dealings going on in Coudersport, in case anyone cares. It's all about greed.

Anonymous said...

For the anonymous that appears to be either ignorant or jealous of Brown and Holmberg regarding the statement of their purchasing properties in town, I commend them for trying to keep Coudersport alive. As I understand Fastenal was moving from their Main St. location due to various reasons, so what is wrong with purchasing a property to accommodate them and keeping them in town. Joanne Petrosewitz had been trying to sell the building which houses Verizon for years--what is so bad about that transaction, did it hurt Coudersport, Verizon or Mrs. Petrosewitz????

Now if you want to talk about Coudersport and tax payers getting a bad deal, I agree with the statement "take a look at the Redevelopment Authority and buying all those properties, taking them off the tax rolls," so we the people in the Coudersport School District have to pick up this lost tax base with increases in our taxes.


While the current location of the Arboretum is lovely, I think it would benefit many more having it on Main Street to be enjoyed by all. I know many people didn't even know where it was until it started getting this attention of the Sheetz expansion.
For those of you who travel to Port Allegany you know and can see what that vacant Sheetz store looks like and each year it continues to look worse. Is this what you want to see in Coudersport?